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I agree with Paah, Crow, from what I've learned it would be against their beliefs to bring harm or curse someone. In time of war they would work through prayer rather than curses. The NA social structure is focused on honor, respect, right action, being caretakers and healers, and in general the greater good.

Shamanism is akin to the Medicine Ways but NA do not use the word shaman. They would see cursing someone as Bad Medicine labeling the practitioner doing such a thing as a sorcerer or witch. They fear sorcery or witchery as it brings the Bad Medicine to the tribe or individuals in it and in their eyes a witches and sorcerers are the same...Bad. So if someone were to walk into a NA circle and announce themselves as a witch they would be shunned.

They do not see witches as good or in a neutral light as society recognizes the white or green witch today. Instead they're perceived as wicked or evil. In the Southwest such an individual is called a Brujo, just as someone might be called a Medicine Person or Healer, and the name is rarely even whispered. It is believed to utter it aloud it can draw harmful attention from that individual who is working Bad Medicine in the area. A Brujo is one who practices unfairly for selfish purposes, who is corrupt with their power and knowledge and will harm others with no remorse. They are capable of cursing and for that reason there is a fear factor that causes people to avoid them at all costs.

I can't imagine someone walking a NA path cursing anyone.

I know what you mean, Mo,

I've read stories about people coming to witches to buy spells and curses and find it interesting that some witches do that. I guess people aren't aware of their own intent and feel the need to have someone else empower them in such a way.

And it amazes me that those who sell the negative spells and curses of any sort are willing to weave so blatantly ignoring the retribution that goes with such actions. Trouble is, with blinders on they can't see that. It's sad that anyone would want to bring harm to another like that but they do it all the time. It's definitely a Crooked Path of Shadows that's for sure. There are other ways to protect ourselves that do not harm anyone.

Yes, Crow, they do not practice cursing themselves as far as I know. I've never met anyone who walks that path to do so.

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You're welcome Crow,

I just couldn't resist sharing a picture. *S* Now as an aside, while not shamanic in practice, there are certain practitioners (too numerous to mention) that I've come across over the years who do sell curses to people. Some actually weave spells and many are simply con artists. The con artists tell people they've been cursed as means of getting them to pay huge sums of money. While a rare few may call themselves shamans, I've never know a shaman or NA Medicine Person to do this type of thing. It's just not in their thought processes in the first place. For example, one of my clients was telling me a woman had told her she was cursed. My client was to send the woman something like $2,000 for a powerful crystal that would remove the curse if she did a certain spell. Then, when the curse had been lifted the precious crystal was to be returned to the practitioner for a partial reimbursement, minus her fee for weaving the spell. Yeah right. I do hear of that sort of thing going on from time to time and it gives those who walk the Healing Path a bad name. What can you do though? That type of individual is out for whatever they can get from people and selfish greed is their motivation, so preying upon others is the path they walk.

I do believe cursing can be accomplished, and has been on many occasions but the one bearing the stigma must believe in it to receive it or be spiritually vulnerable (generally spiritually ignorant of how to avoid such energy attacks). Such curses can be placed on individuals or families or royal lines. It this were not the case then there would be no need to have practices that remove curses. And even in this scope I think a lot has to do with whether the individual is willing to accept it or not. I also believe the more spiritually advanced we get the more we understand we're raising our own vibrations to a level where these energies just don't come into play.

My personal beliefs about curses is that when we walk aligned with right intent, connected to our spirit and Guides, to the Great Ones, and remain alert to energy signatures around us that we are already walking in protection or forearmed enough to divert any negative or unwanted energies. Walking in higher awareness we are forewarned of negativity, our Spirit Helpers watch over us too, and over the years that's proven true for me on several occasions. I have strong boundaries in place as to what or whom I will accept coming into my Sacred Space uninvited but on the whole my Spirit Helpers guard my territory very well. A few people have come calling unannounced (spiritually speaking) and ended up face to face with my Guardian Spirits. They got no closer. There are a couple people here who could tell a story or two about that first hand.

I also believe that IF we believe we can be cursed that makes us vulnerable to the will of others and we self-defeat. I've heard of those who do lay curses on others who have been successful but generally it's because the target individual is unaware of the need to keep their guard up or that they might even be attacked along that line. I believe the energy we send out is neutral until we put our intent behind it. Directed with focus it becomes an arrow to either serve or destroy. Native Medicine People have been known to weave strength to their warriors in times of battle, and to get into battles between themselves when egos are out of control but it's rare. I wouldn't say that's cursing however.

Now shamanic practitioners have been more readily known to do that sort of thing from time to time. You will see it quite frequently with those who have not worked at humility and taming their primal egos. It's one of the reasons I stay away from those who follow Michael Harner's work. The man himself is not like that from what I can tell but his students are very boastful and always getting into power-trips with each other, high ego-mania there. If you've ever go to his site you'll notice the competitive "I'm more powerful than you are" being rife and it's quite obvious. I found that to be a huge turn-off for me.

Indigenous shamans will battle each other too but that's usually in territorial battles where lines have been crossed intentionally or not. They're not setting out to intentionally go on the attack based on ego, they do battle to defend their boundaries and territories. Even there it's not cursing, it's psychic attacks that take place on both dimensional and physical levels, generally in combination. As for the Brujos of the South, they are practicing sorcery not shamanism or the Medicine Path.