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MonSnoLeeDra2		#41	[url]	[-]
Spirit Keeper Posts: 503 Jul 14 09 11:51 AM	wynsong7 wrote: MonSnoLeeDra2, I don't know if you come here, but I see that same thing in you....and I'm so grateful for having been given the opportunity to engage with you. To learn more about who you are. To see a Warrior on a Warrior's Path and recognize it, in its balanced form. Thank you for your kind words. But I must insist on one point, one engages an opponent in the struggle, one embraces and travels with a friend. I do not see an opponent before my cyber eyes but one whose energy reminds me of a close friend and travelling companion. That we may disagree on things is of no matter in the greater scheme of things only that we speak and return to speak again on anther day. Though I do freely admit I am stubborn so the speak may be difficult at times, but just as the sun rises each day to return to the landscape so to will I.
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CinnamonMoon		#42	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4796 Jul 14 09 11:52 AM Admin/ Board Founder	Between what you said here ((((Cinnamon)))) and what MonSnoLeeDra2 said in White Crow's new post in "Walk" about being a wheel... And the fact that I went to Tai Chi for the first time since I blew out my back, and sat in Wave Hands as Cloud, which so holds the energy of the Taoist symbol of Yin and Yang.... I'm feeling today, the flow I spoke of several posts back in this thread... Soft smile Sometimes it's good to reveal our passions and perspectives and look at those of others. I'm very happy for you Wyn, being in the flow is a good feeling. There are times we just need to let that carry us and float as we take in the landscape. Sort of reminds me of a lazy, hazy summer day of pondering and doing nothing in particular other than to let our thoughts wander a bit and explore the world inside and out wherever we find ourselves. Not a separation on linear terms, which my mind runs too, as a cultural preference...but the sphere of swirling, merging but not mixing (in the sense that the separateness is completely lost in the muddying of the two) flow of one to the other...to create the whole. Nods. Separation...the swirling and the dance in and out of it. That's part of what drew me to follow Crow's lead and begin a new thread in WYT too. I'm sure that will give you lots to munch on as well. I got passionate. I've a lot to think about, and more importantly allow to sink into my tissues, and experience from the conversations that have occurred here in the last two days. I think we all do. I'm still letting the post in Crow's new thread sink in before I discern if I can contribute or not. My gratitude again to you, Cinnamon and all those who suppport you in creating this safe space for me to come to, to do my journey in the written word/world. You are always so gracious. I love the Lodge and all who comprise it deeply, and it is the community that makes it what it is as much as anything I might do. We'll be keeping it this way. Once again thank you for sharing, I love reading your posts and watching you walk through your perceptions. ~Wan-Tanna-Hey: "Walk In Peace With Spirit"~ ~To Be A Feather In Spirit's Wing~ ~Experience Is A Master Teacher~
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wynsong7		#43	[url]	[-]
Spirit Keeper Posts: 2177 Jul 14 09 1:17 PM	technically challenged, please ignore I am so glad you came here, and read my thanks. Thank you for your kind words. But I must insist on one point, one engages an opponent in the struggle, one embraces and travels with a friend. I do not see an opponent before my cyber eyes but one whose energy reminds me of a close friend and travelling companion. That we may disagree on things is of no matter in the greater scheme of things only that we speak and return to speak again on anther day. I laughed outloud when I read this, even while I acknowledge with absolute conviction your feelings....I too felt companionship as we discussed our differing viewpoints....but the English language again is inadequate to the task, or it is part and parcel with the cultural things I have absorbed that I used the word engaged... When a man asks a woman to walk with him through life, we call them engaged. Maybe that is why we struggle so, in our culture with the relationship that ensues...because we become engaged, as if with an opponent, instead of embracing and travelling with a friend. Embracing and travelling with a friend, is how I would describe how I would want to be 'engaged', if I were ever to walk that path again. So if it happens, I will call it something other than being engaged. Thank you for that too. Though I do freely admit I am stubborn so the speak may be difficult at times, but just as the sun rises each day to return to the landscape so to will I. This in particular sounds very comforting. Munay Edited 1 time by wynsong7 Jul 14 09 1:22 PM.
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MonSnoLeeDra2		#44	[url]	[-]
Spirit Keeper Posts: 503 Jul 14 09 1:54 PM	When a man asks a woman to walk with him through life, we call them engaged That is one phrase or notion I refuse to acknowledge or speak in that capacity. I always say they are joined and united. To me to say one is engaged simply indicates that at some time they will seperate from the engagement. But to be joined and united says to be together for a long time, for we willingly join with something we find needed adn want to be with and unite always for the long haul of life.
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wynsong7		#45	[url]	[-]
Spirit Keeper Posts: 2177 Jul 14 09 2:57 PM	Somehow that does not surprise me, MonSnoLeeDra2. I had never given the word any thought, just accepted it. I will give it some thought from now on. Munay
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wynsong7	And of course, my story continues...	#46	[url]	[-]
Spirit Keeper Posts: 2177 Jul 15 09 1:58 PM	And factoring in a Wheel, I've no idea whether this fits into the Masculine... but here goes. MonSonLeeDra was wonderful and helped me understand his concept of being a Wheel... and so I went to me journal, of course, and sat with that... this is the result...and then a response to my journal entry from one who knows me well. Munay July 14th, 2009, So His Version of Wheel Explained, and it makes perfect sense in context of the way I tell my story. Which will be a "damn it". In a room full of windows, most people have to go to each one, and look out to take in what is outside... I take it all in at once, from the centre of the room. It is exactly what happens when I'm reading something, or in a classroom.... I never get what the people beside me get from the movie, the story, the person speaking...I get tons more. I immediately start applying what I'm taking in, to all that I already know...it is how I learn. It is why I remember. It is how I operate in the world as I perceive it. AND I hate being limited... So Spirit said... COOL...not limits...take it all in. So MonSnoLeeDra, suggested that I pull down some shades and rest... I have trouble doing that, because, it feels like I'm limiting me. And you know what... It is exactly what I need to do. I need to limit me, because if I don't, then someone/thing outside of me has to. I need to create my own Chaos, unbalance the energy of the Wheel as it were, because if not, I'm always blaming someone else for doing it...and I am not Co-Creating. I'm tired... and I'm going to take myself up to bed...and rest, if not sleep. I've taken muscle relaxants again, for the first time, in a long time. Munay My friend's response...it made me laugh..and of course, she sees me more clearly than I'm able to see myself. Munay I've often found that with you and movies/books. I feel I've enjoyed the movie or book and got something really cool out of it. And when it's over, I take what I choose to take, and instantly forget everything else about it, including the plot. Generally I only remember how I felt about it and nothing else. And then you talk about it in such vivid details and I wonder if we even watched the same movie. You have lived it, and it sticks with you. And maybe yes, you need to limit your brain and your body a bit. Or the universe will do that for you. Maybe I could try a few other windows on occasion. xoxo
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wynsong7		#47	[url]	[-]
Spirit Keeper Posts: 2177 Jul 15 09 2:03 PM	So a new way of doing my journey...is presenting itself. One in which I choose the limits, and which shades to pull. One in which I create the chaos that feeds me, and claim my creation. Oy...no wonder I'm feeling tired. Thankfully I have a bit of time off from work, but I'm moving head long into possibly uprooting how I live my life, and where. Munay
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MonSnoLeeDra2		#48	[url]	[-]
Spirit Keeper Posts: 503 Jul 15 09 2:35 PM	Ah wynsong, That is the masculine side of the warrior path. Analyze what stands before you and impedes your progress and undermines your abilities. Then to take that info and change your approach to turn the negative to a positive trait and utilize it to make you more balanced as you advance to your next encounter or engagement. Don't leave it to another to create your reality but to make your reality yours alone and control what enters and how. To turn your weakness to a strength and to take the strength from another and make it their weakness to be exploited upon the field of battle. Yes I have modified my notion from the field of armed conflict to the field of battle for many forms of battle may occur.
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wynsong7		#49	[url]	[-]
Spirit Keeper Posts: 2177 Jul 15 09 2:38 PM	Thanks MonSnoLeeDra for all your help in moving me along on this. Munay
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CinnamonMoon		#50	[url]	[-]
Posts: 4796 Jul 15 09 3:49 PM Admin/ Board Founder	I like this a lot! ~Wan-Tanna-Hey: "Walk In Peace With Spirit"~ ~To Be A Feather In Spirit's Wing~ ~Experience Is A Master Teacher~
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