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Wachituga and Jimmy,

I woke up this morning frustrated. Frustrated by the fact that two of my favorite writers and very opinionated individuals here at Spirit lodge seem to be unable to tolerate one another; I asked my self why?

When I look at Jimmy, I see a strong individual that helps people overcome devastating illnesses through individually understanding themselves better and giving up control to a greater power in order to heal. Jimmy heals by being a hollow bone and allowing Spirit to heal. The healed individual gains respect (of self).

When I look at Wachituga, I see a strong individual that helps disparate groups of individuals come together in understanding and therein give up isolation of self / group; yielding in turn to greater understanding and respect. Wachituga heals by becoming part of universal energy and allowing that energy to encompass all individuals in understanding and in healing. The healed individuals or group gains respect (of one another).

What I also see are two individuals that know the ways to help others heal but are so very specialized in their own methods that they cannot see past their individuals specialized field to either the larger human condition in Jimmy’s case or into the individuals depths pf pain that can encompass individuals in Wachituga’s case. There are many types of work that must be done to bring about either the understanding of / or being with Spirit / universal consciousness. If you could both just step back from your own perspectives and your own chosen paths you might just see the beauty that you each individually bring to the world, each in your own way and each helping others to heal albeit in completely opposite manners. Personally, I believe that both of your perspectives are valuable and I would hate to see either of you to choose not to write. By sharing your paths you help others that come from many different cultures and perspectives with their own individuals needs. It takes a community to raise a child not only one individual perspective and it is through seeing and respecting how others have found their way that we can help others together, find their own way.

I ask that the discussion about paths continue in respectful disagreement. With all of our human limitation wouldn’t it be far better to respectfully agree to disagree, then it would be to walk away from the discussion. No one should force their path on another, no on should say my way is the only way; albeit it, it might be the only way for the individual. In my mind that choice needs to be respected as well. I believe, in both cases when the personal path must dominate another that is when EGO is speaking. Wouldn't it be far better to look instead at the beauty and diversity of our home and planet, Mother Earth, and learn and live by her example in respect. Each element (Air, Water, Fire and Earth) has its own way but in their individuality they work together both separately and in complementation. They too, at times, come together in chaos at the interfaces but that chaos is good and cleansing; albeit more deeply appreciated after the storm has passed not necessarily during it. I will also grant you the fact that a thunderstrom is magnificent to watch but one might not necessarily relish being a part of it.

I for one feel we need all perspectives here and after the heat of the discussion has simmered down I hope you both choose to continue to post. Personally I value both of your insights as I try to find my own way. Thank you both for what you have shared and the help you have given me. I do hope though that you both choose to continue to post.

Walk in Respect, Peace, and Love, earthwalker

Arctic and Cinnamon,
I would love to discuss the subject of the "echos" Arctic is seeing and journeying with others further as Cinnamon suggested. Arctic, to answer your question, yes when I write about journeys / dances I can relive what I have seen and felt and they are great starting places to journey further. The Black Jaguar(s) are very special to me and stayed with me continually for several months after my first encounter. I can now just feel their presence with or without visualization. If you can go back into the journey/echo see if you can see the one you saw. Can you also see both of them. Look into their eyes and tell me what you see. What are the distinquishing characteristics can you observe between the two. They are magnificent creatures to observe, and as I write they sit near. Can you see the other entity that sits behind me? I am just curious?

Cinnamon, What are the ground rules for this type of journeying. Is mixing journeys with others safe? I do find this "echo" very interesting.

Walk in Love and Peace, earthwalker