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        <![CDATA[ Totem Loss


Consulting the Creature-Teachers:

I just want to share a Bible passage wherein we are directed to interact with Totems. From Job 12:7-8: &quot;Ask the animals, and they will teach you, or the
birds of the air, and they will tell you; or speak to the earth, and it will teach you, or let the fish of the sea inform you.&quot; Whether you follow
Christian teachings or a more nature-based path, the animals (their spiritual essences) will be found to be addressed somewhere. Nowhere... ]]>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Totem Loss ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ *grins* I know them too. I saw them, and
          had the choice to step into them at that point, or later.
           When I was training in Shamanism,
          my medicine teacher and I found a dead Kangaroo on the
          side of the road. My teach...<br /><a href="http://spiritlodge.yuku.com/reply/2890/Totem-Loss#reply-2890">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Totem Loss ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ I agree with you Bear, 100%! The honoring is what
          matters, and the ceremonies after a person or creature
          Drop their Robe is as much for those left behind. They
          grieve their loss then and it becomes very personal. In
         ...<br /><a href="http://spiritlodge.yuku.com/reply/2889/Totem-Loss#reply-2889">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Totem Loss ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ What is ritual? A way to honor! As Simple as a
          prayer and burial!  I have often
          thought at wakes and funerals that the wake and funeral
          are for the people left behind, not for the one that just
          crossed. Once the spi...<br /><a href="http://spiritlodge.yuku.com/reply/2888/Totem-Loss#reply-2888">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Jimmy My family haven't had
          many animals commit suicide, but we have often had
          animals choose to die with us. By that I mean we've
          regularly had wild animals come to us when they were
          dying. Oh, also had ones wantin...<br /><a href="http://spiritlodge.yuku.com/reply/2887/Totem-Loss#reply-2887">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ JimmyWhiteBear, you dear man. Thank you for your
          idea about releasing a prayer with the tobacco. I've
          always got that tobacco.  And if i
          can't let go of the wheel to tear out the tobacco, then i
          can roll down the wi...<br /><a href="http://spiritlodge.yuku.com/reply/2886/Totem-Loss#reply-2886">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Quote:Sounds
          a little nuts I know but I am a softy when it comes to
          the animals. I also have seen them commit suicide and I
          have to respect them for giving they're life up.
          Obviously they are sick and know that it w...<br /><a href="http://spiritlodge.yuku.com/reply/2885/Totem-Loss#reply-2885">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ MInna,  Something I alwaysdo especially
          for Totem animals I see on the road, I will take a
          cigarette and quickly break it up for the tobacco and
          then with a quick prayer, release the tobacco to the wind
          with that pr...<br /><a href="http://spiritlodge.yuku.com/reply/2884/Totem-Loss#reply-2884">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Greetings! Very good points.
          I've been told it is easy to offend your Totem and loose
          them. I personally have not found that to be true, as my
          Totems have stood beside in my worst of moments
           I know people who wont ...<br /><a href="http://spiritlodge.yuku.com/reply/2891/Totem-Loss#reply-2891">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Quote:
          If there is need to regress for some reason we have the
          option of shapeshifting into that experience spiritually
          speaking. Shamans do this all the time...become the
          creature-teacher they need to learn from or...<br /><a href="http://spiritlodge.yuku.com/reply/2873/Totem-Loss#reply-2873">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I believe that we as humans have a spirit within us
          that is immortal and passes through the lifetimes. Could
          we live as a creature-teacher/Totem for others, why not?
          It's the experience of life and what that brings to our
   ...<br /><a href="http://spiritlodge.yuku.com/reply/2872/Totem-Loss#reply-2872">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Quote:The
          term ‘Totem’ itself is loosely used to
          represent any creature-teacher these days, which I
          personally feel is misleading.
           I agree
           When I
          first learned of &quot;Totems&quot; as anim...<br /><a href="http://spiritlodge.yuku.com/reply/2871/Totem-Loss#reply-2871">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Awwwwww Snowy, they're just standing back to give
          you room to figure some things out on your own.
          ~To Be
          A Feather In Spirit's
          Wing~ ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ (((( Cinn ))))..i came here today to put up a post
          'why have all my guides deserted me'.. I'm glad i found your post With
          Love SnowyOwlSeeking
          Freedom ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Minna~  We can't always stop to bury them
          but we can always, always, always give thanks, bless
          their spirits and pray for a gentle journey for them. I
          call that being a road reverend, and I cannot pass by an
          animal ...<br /><a href="http://spiritlodge.yuku.com/reply/2881/Totem-Loss#reply-2881">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Thank you, Cinnamon. Last week, i didn't feel like
          i could act as sad as i felt, because Bear felt so bad.
          So, i wasn't really honest, but i was blaming me, and it
          spilled over to him. So i was really quiet and trying to
    ...<br /><a href="http://spiritlodge.yuku.com/reply/2880/Totem-Loss#reply-2880">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Minna,
          it's so hard when we don't intend to do harm isn't it?
          And it seems hindsight is always 20/20, the 'could do's'
          come out of the woodwork. I think you did the best you
          could given the circumstances, these thi...<br /><a href="http://spiritlodge.yuku.com/reply/2879/Totem-Loss#reply-2879">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Thank you so much for writing this, Cinnamon. Last
          weekend we accidentally ran over a fox. I didn't even
          know there were foxes out here. I
          felt so horrible. I thought about writing you about it,
          but i thought - well...<br /><a href="http://spiritlodge.yuku.com/reply/2878/Totem-Loss#reply-2878">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ s It's
          good you pointed it out Bear, I don't want to confuse
          anyone and didn't realize I wasn't being clear. All good,
          my friend, all good! ~To Be
          A Feather In Spirit's
          Wing~ ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I agree with that Cinn, it was the way i learned it
          also. it did sound confusing tho'
          bear ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I'm sorry if that was confusing Bear, let me try to
          restate what I mean. A Spirit Helper
          (creature or spirit messenger/teacher) can teach lessons,
          help us in a given situation, and will step aside when
          that work is ...<br /><a href="http://spiritlodge.yuku.com/reply/2875/Totem-Loss#reply-2875">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Totem Loss


Consulting the Creature-Teachers:

I just want to share a Bible passage wherein we are directed to interact with Totems. From Job 12:7-8: &quot;Ask the animals, and they will teach you, or the
birds of the air, and they will tell you; or spea...<br /><a href="http://spiritlodge.yuku.com/topic/849/Totem-Loss">Read More</a> ]]></description>

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